Chapter 2

 



The message?  The Internet gives people their voice.  It's up to us as marketers to give them a place to gather and use that voice (better on our site than our competitor's).  This is community.  And it's vitally important to the success of ANY site on the web.

Hamilton Wallace, Krishna Unni, Rajesh Khanna and John Webster attempt to "tame the Internet beast" along with 18 other intrepid souls at The Hermosa Inn in Paradise Valley, Arizona, on January 5, 2001.

This is a text transcription of a discussion between Hamilton, John, Unni and Rajesh.  Unni and Rajesh are our web design partners from Mumbai, India, www.pigtailpundits.com.  Mumbai is the Indian name for the city of Bombay.  What follows is our rants and raves regarding the state of the web and the implications for owners of small to medium sized businesses. . .

John:  After people get their printed brochure, the next thing they want is to sell the thing they sell over the web.  Or to have their clients be able to check their account balance or track an order. And then they feel like okay, well, that’s it.

Hamilton:  There’s so much more, come on, we’re all tired of hearing that the web is the single most significant communication medium to come along in our lifetime.  Is that really it?  I mean, is that where we all have evolved with our web sites? 

Unni: For most, yes.  But the real value of the web for all of us is it gives us our voice – it gives everyone their voice.  Look at email.  It’s how most of us communicate, it accounts for 70% of the use of the Internet.

John: What it means to me, email, is that it changes relationships.  This is a silly example, but before email, none of my clients faxed jokes to me or called me to tell a joke.  It has opened up a whole new level of communication.  Simple, informal, quick.  Not a lot of companies really use email to its fullest potential because they don’t really understand it.  And do you know why?  Email is basically thrown in with your web hosting.  It’s free.  Nobody’s making money on it so nobody’s helping companies learn how to use it.

Hamilton:  And here’s why that’s a great big marketing problem.  If you have 20 people sending email to customers and prospects, you have 20 copywriters.  Twenty authors of your marketing message.  By default.  Complete with poor grammar and so many missed opportunities.  It’s easier to speak it than to write it.  Especially if you don’t know how to type.  Ad agencies aren’t talking to their clients about their email.  They should.  John’s right.  Email is this black hole because nobody can make money with it.

John: Oh, I don’t know, you and I harp on our clients enough about it.

Hamilton:  I know, but I’m saying for most companies it’s a real lost opportunity.

Rajesh: I wonder how many sales are lost to poor use of email?

Hamilton:  Lots.  You know the irony or the disconnect for me is all this money being spent on customer relationship management software.  At least in the U.S. it has become very much of a priority for companies to automate their sales function.  Plan, automate, track and manage customer and prospect contacts.  In many cases it just makes a company more efficient at sending a mediocre message.  It’s like a café owner thinking he needs to become more efficient serving his hamburgers when he ought to be concentrating on serving better hamburgers.  A more efficient flawed process is not a better process. 

Rajesh: You say ‘relationships,’ that’s exactly what the web is so good at and what few understand.  My grandfather started in the textile business 100 years ago.  He would bring goods to the marketplace every week.  Over time he established relationships with his customers.  He was the factory, the distributor and the sales office.  The industrial revolution segmented those steps, so the relationship building was the responsibility of the sales office.  Now, with the web, we’re back to my grandfather’s marketplace, where the web forces all of us to be responsible for building customer relationships again.  It can be difficult, especially, as John pointed out, if you perceive your web site as a brochure.

Hamilton: Right, brochures don’t build relationships, although they may start one.  But our sites must do so much more.  And isn’t that where we are, transitioning from “brochure-ware” to sites that provide information and start a two-way communication?

John:  I agree it is the same, the web forces us to be more like your grandfather than we’ve ever been forced to do since the machine age.  But at the same time it is very different.  We don’t have face-to-face real-time communication on the web, at least not yet.  You have to accomplish it with discussion boards, encouraging people to ask questions and. . .

Hamilton: And then answering them with good answers and doing it fast.

John:  Yeah, and more.  Your grandfather’s marketplace worked because people came, met, connected, I imagine drank some coffee together, met their friends and met other people interested in what they were interested in.  I’ll bet the camel drivers hung out together and talked about camel driving techniques and what makes a good camel.  Or the early settlers in North America talked about their cattle or crops or rain or something.  So, we need to create opportunities for people to talk to each other, not just us, on our sites.

As I sit here and listen to what we’re saying I come away with what makes the difference in terms of the web isn’t so much the micro ideas about XML or Java or FLASH. . .

Rajesh:  It’s the macro!

John:  The focus, the objective, the strategy behind your site.

Unni:  Remember one thing.  Technology is the facilitator.  It’s only the facilitator.  The web allows community, but it is not community.  People are community.

Hamilton:  We need to create a space, our web site, that encourages people to gather.  That makes them want to come and hang out a while.

John:  Sure, but here’s the quandary I think many of us are in.  All of us pretty much know that if we keep doing things the same way, in 10 years we’ll be dead.  Our companies will be gone.  So we know we need to do it a different way – we can’t do what we’re doing forever, we have maybe five or ten years.  But when we try to go and do it differently, it doesn’t work for us.  We spend all this money putting up our web sites and then we put tracking software on our site to track hits.  I always tell people if you need to go to your hit tracking software to see how your site is doing, something’s wrong.  The phone is supposed to be ringing.  Orders are supposed to be flowing.  Emails are supposed to be coming.  If you want to know how your web site is affecting your business, look at your sales. 

So, what are the steps to building community online?  And I think even myself, even though you said the web allows community, I think at the same time it prevents community.  Other than a discussion board that you can plug into your site, it takes having a passion for whatever you do.  Here’s an example, www.pocketpcpassion.com.  There’s a guy who’s absolutely passionate about handheld PCs.  He has nothing for sale and he’s just one guy.  Yet, I’ll bet you his site gets more hits than Microsoft’s handheld PC site.  In fact, Microsoft now gives him space in their exhibit booth at certain trade shows.  He’s probably responsible for more sales of these things than any other site.  Now, that doesn’t mean you can’t sell stuff on your site to create a great place to hang out.  But I think he succeeds because he creates a place for people to go, learn and talk to each other.  He isn’t necessarily the expert.  He creates a place where a lot of expertise tends to collect.  Microsoft wouldn’t allow people to say half the things said about their operating system or their partners’ products on their site.

Hamilton:  But they should.  They’d probably sell more stuff.

Unni:  That’s unfortunate because it’s a new reality.

Hamilton:  A new version of “If you don’t advertise, sales can’t grow.”

Unni:  Right.  If you don’t provide community, they’ll go elsewhere.

Hamilton:  The result’s the same.

Unni:  You must try to build community.  It may take a while, but it’s still the best route to success.  As an example, we have 2,500 people in our community, Pigtail Pundits community, subscribing to our newsletter.  

John:  It’s a whole new way of thinking about how to communicate with customers and prospects. 

Hamilton:  What a great opportunity to differentiate yourself!  But what about how we get people to our sites in the first place?

Unni:  We began to experiment with viral marketing a while ago for our own site.  We did something called “feet,” where we took two pairs of feet in a FLASH animation, a man and a woman, and it has sexual innuendo, but in a tasteful manner.  It’s done very tastefully, very subtle, it’s a lot of fun.  Harmless really, but it’s very funny, they fall off the bed and so on.  And we just sent it out to our friends.  In four months our hits went up by 60,000.  We did a couple punjas, or prayers, for some religious festivals in India and sent them out.  And then we did “The Christmas Turkey” where a guy is giving instructions how to cook a turkey for Christmas, and he gets drunk and it’s really very funny.  A simple vector animation - a FLASH movie.  Again, we just sent it out.  From four such viral marketing attempts we have generated 1.2 million hits on our site over the past year.   On January 1 of this year we had 10,000 hits, just from these funny things. 

Rajesh:  Now, say for this Christmas Turkey, you had an alcohol brand.  You could put a little message at the end of the thing, “Don’t over do it this season, but do have fun.”  And a friend sends it to a friend and so on. 

John:  You could also have a button that says if you want to be notified when we send other fun stuff, please let me know.  Well that’s cool, but I think the hard part is you did that and it worked well.  But, how do people do that kind of thing for themselves?  Have you seen elf bowling?  I’m an email guy and I’ve seen probably every stupid email attachment there is.  But this one is really stupid.  You click on it and the machine stacks Santa’s elves like pins on a bowling alley and the ball bowls them over.  But it’s so popular, that as Christmas approaches because we administer email for some of our clients we start to hear “Okay, get ready for the elf bowling email attachments.”  They clog entire systems. 

The dark side is that if you allow people to download executable files from your site and pass them along, it’s very likely that eventually they’ll get infected on somebody’s site and YOUR thing will start infecting people’s computers.

A great thing to do is expire them in 90 days.  That would be a protection. 

Unni:  Anyway, people interested in viral marketing could dream up something funny and we could execute it for them and they could turn it lose.  Irreverent, fun, silly.  That’s what it needs to be. 

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